HM Treasury News Release      
65/98                                           27 April 1998
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    SPEECH TO PFI CONFERENCE AT THE BUSINESS DESIGN CENTRE,
                       ISLINGTON, LONDON


Attached is a copy of the speech given earlier today by the
Paymaster General, Geoffrey Robinson to the PFI Conference at
the Business Design Centre, Islington, 
London.
                                
                                
                                
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    SPEECH BY GEOFFREY ROBINSON MP, PAYMASTER-GENERAL TO PFI
                   CONFERENCE - 27 APRIL 1998
                                
Introduction

1.   Last month I visited Temple Primary School in one of the
     most deprived areas of Manchester.  The school dated back
     to the early part of century, with all the associated
     deficiencies of poor security, neglected maintenance and
     inadequate facilities.  Next door was a small urban park
     which had become the haunt of drug and solvent abusers.

2.   At the school, the teaching staff were excellent.  They
     impressed me greatly with their commitment and enthusiasm
     and this had obviously rubbed off on the kids.  But it
     cannot be right that so many of our children are being
     educated for the twenty-first century in nineteenth century
     conditions.  And if we make the full success of the PFI
     which we intend, nor shall they be.

3.   At Temple primary school a now agreed public/private
     partnership will provide this community, its teachers and
     children with a new school.  A school that will be well
     maintained and secure with modern facilities that will help
     provide these children with a modern education, and increase
     their aspirations so they make the most of it. 

4.   The reason I open my speech with this very real example, is
     because that is what PFI is really about.  It is about
     enabling investment in key areas to take place that
     otherwise would not; and to get best value for money in
     doing so.

5.   So it is on that note that I welcome you to this, the first
     Taskforce Conference.  I think it is an indication of how
     we have restored credibility to the PFI concept, and of how
     widely the Taskforce is respected in PFI circles, that there
     are so many of you here today.  So many, indeed, that we had
     to move to the conference to a larger venue to meet demand.

6.   PFI is part of the Government's Public-Private Partnerships
     strategy.  PPPs are about delivering high quality projects
     and services, as well as value for money for the tax payer. 
     And it is about delivering the investment in the public
     infrastructure that is desperately needed.

Treasury Role

7.   One of the Treasury's most important jobs is to control
     public spending - to say no - and this will always be the
     case.  There can never be any change or challenge to the
     Treasury as the ultimate point of accountability.  But we
     must try to break away from simply being the "dead hand". 
      We must - and I believe we now are - think more
     intelligently about how we spend taxpayers money.

8.   In doing so, we must first reduce the mistrust and end the
     turf wars between the Treasury and other departments, and
     move to more open cooperation.  For too long the bidding
     process has been characterised by a situation where spending
     departments bid for double what they need, the Treasury cuts
     it in half and everyone congratulates themselves on a job
     well done.  In fact this is a most insidious process because
     it leads to sloppy thinking throughout Government. 
     Propositions are not adequately tested in principle and the
     real cost is not assessed in any adequate detail.  Perhaps
     worst of all, the end results are never rigorously analysed
     against the claims made for the investments in the first
     place.

9.   For Heaven's sake we can do better than that!  And I hope
     (in speaking to a wider audience at this point) that some
     changes in the Treasury approach are beginning to make
     themselves evident.  We shall certainly need to do better
     because there will never be enough money to meet all
     demands, given that every investment for public purposes
     must be serviced from taxation in one form or another.

10.  It is vital therefore that we develop new methods of
     delivering  public services and public investment aimed at
     ensuring the most efficient use of resources to meet
     priorities that are established by a process of thorough
     analysis and open debate.

Resuscitating the PFI

11.  This was our approach to get PFI going.  Immediately after
     taking office, we stopped the perversely counterproductive
     policy of universal testing and insisted that departments
     prioritised their programmes.

12.  For 4 years PFI had been a dead-duck in the water because
     of the lack of clear thinking and direction by the previous
     Government.  The Initiative had been floundering, the system
     was gunged up with innumerable hopeless projects and
     bureaucracy was seemingly unable to even communicate amongst
     itself. 

Bates

13.  It was evident that we had to take a wide ranging look at
     what was going wrong and asked Malcolm Bates to review the
     PFI and to complete his review in six weeks. It was
     completed to time in June of last year.  I would again like
     to pay tribute to Malcolm Bates who did a really outstanding
     job for us.  His review was central to resuscitating PFI.

14.  One of the Bates Review's most important recommendations was
     for the creation of a Taskforce which should work directly
     from the Treasury itself.  In recruiting the Taskforce we
     decided to work directly with industry and Malcolm again
     advised.  As the head of the Taskforce we had the great good
     fortune to find Adrian Montague who was Head of Project
     Finance at Dresdner Kleinwort Benson.  Adrian, working with
     Treasury officials - notably Steve Robson and Peter Wanless
     - put together the excellent team of eight people with the
     balance of complementary skills we needed for the job

15.  At the same time we wound up the previous Panel and
     Executive.  They had done some good work, but the time was
     right to move on and develop more appropriate structures.

16.  The Bates Report was commissioned in May, Adrian Montague
     was recruited in July and the whole team was in place by
     November last year.  All 29 recommendations of the Bates
     Review have now been implemented.  Government on its own
     could not have completed such a timetable.  But working
     together with the private sector we pushed the job through.

Results

17.  And now the results are coming through too.  

18.  Over the last year we have breathed life into PFI.  Projects
     totalling 1.9 billion Pounds have been signed.  (Leaving aside
     CTRL) that's nearly half as much again as that achieved in
     the five previous years since the Initiative was formulated
     back in 1992.

19.  Thanks to the vigorous action by our colleagues at the
     Department of Health we are now embarked on the biggest
     hospital building programme in the history of the NHS.  The
     scale of the programme has probably not been seen since
     Victorian times.  Eighteen new hospitals will be built in
     the first wave and a further ten in the second - a programme
     totalling some 3 billion Pounds.

20.  And it is not just on such major programmes that PFI is
     making the difference.

21.  The Colfox school in Dorset is being built under PFI and
     should be completed 6 months quicker than the local
     authority would have expected to do it.  The Head is
     delighted with progress, and has even reversed the previous
     trend of children within the school's catchment area going
     to an out of area Grant Maintained School. This is another
     example of new investment leading to new aspirations.

Opposition to the PFI

22.  I quote these examples to those who are sceptical, to
     encourage them to think again about what PFI is about.  Yes
     I know there are still those who have reservations about
     PFI.  But PFI is not just about commercial contracts and the
     uncomfortable changes to established practices and ways of
     thinking that these involve.  PFI is about making a real
     difference to people's lives.  Are the sceptics saying they
     don't want these hospitals and schools built?  Of course
     not.  So we must all work together to ensure that the real
     benefits of Public Private Partnerships enjoy the
     perceptions they deserve.

Project Review Group

23.  May I first stress again that funds are not infinite even
     less so is the Government's capacity to service
     improvements.  That is why we have established the system
     of PFI credits for each sector of Local Authority
     expenditure and are keeping a close eye on the overall level
     of transactions. And why - in order to avoid the wasteful
     proliferation of bidding - the Project Review Group of the
     Taskforce agrees the do-able projects in advance with the
     Departments.

24.  The Taskforce has compiled a list of 50 central government
     priority projects, enabling bidders to commit time and
     resources in the knowledge that the viability of these
     projects is verified; and contracts will receive Taskforce
     support.  I should add that this does not mean many other
     projects, not listed, do not represent good value for money,
     or are not worthy of support.

25.  A list of 40 local authority projects assured of central
     government financial support was also released by the
     Taskforce. 

Maximising Benefits

26.  The Government - people often seem to forget - even after
     all the privatisation of the Tory years still represents 40
     per cent of GDP.  However successful we are with PFI in its
     present limited form it can only  represent a relatively
     small part of Government capital expenditure - let alone of
     total Government activity.

27.  It is therefore all the more important that we get maximum
     benefit from the experience it brings us and ensure that
     public and private sectors learn from each other.  For
     instance there is scope for more benchmarking of activities.

28.  The Taskforce is developing templates and framework
     contracts and is creating a library of best practice and
     approved templates that will lead to more not less sharing
     of information.  A crucial element of improving the PFI
     process is learning from what has gone before.   It will
     also reduce the hassle, waste and duplication of what
     happened in those Tory years.

29.  As a further part of the learning process, a number of
     guides, including a new introductory document, policy
     statements, technical guides and case studies have been
     published.

30.  We must ensure that ideas produced in the public sector are
     made available for commercial exploitation. Our approach to
     defence diversification and the University Challenge
     Initiative show that we are moving on this front too.

National Asset Register

31.  And we must be prepared to bring in the private sector to
     help Government departments get full value from their
     assets, including by commercial exploitation where that make
     sense.  The compilation of the National Asset Register will
     help the public sector realise the best value from its
     assets.  And we have made changes to give central and local
     Government greater freedom and incentives to undertake this
     sort of activity. 


Resource Accounting

32.  One significant new development that will encourage a much
     more commercial approach by Government departments to the
     use of their assets will be the introduction of resource
     accounting.  This is already operating on a trial basis
     throughout Government and will become official accounting
     policy from 1 April next year.

33.  No longer will departments be able to take their assets for
     granted.  A depreciation charge will be visible and they
     will be expected to maintain year by year the value of their
     assets in real terms.

34.  This will have two beneficial effects.  First it will put
     comparisons between PFI projects and purely public sector
     investment on an equal footing; and second it will put
     pressure precisely where it is needed - on the public sector
     so that it maximises the value from the assets it owns.


35.  The Treasury can make its own contribution, certainly on
     current account savings, but also capital disposals, by
     looking at the possibility of enabling Departments to retain
     even more of the ensuing benefits.   This will create the
     correct incentives for departments to manage better their
     assets and their spending programmes.  

36.  The scope of PPPs of all kinds will be significantly
     increased with the introduction of Resource Accounting,
     where it is worth noting that the UK is well ahead of
     Europe.  Indeed the same could be said of PPPs as well.

International Interest

37.  An indication of how much progress we have made is the
     increasing number of enquiries and visitors from all over
     world, eager to find out about the opportunities PFI has to
     offer. The Treasury has received delegations from areas as
     diverse as Australia, Brazil, China, Japan, South Africa,
     Eastern Europe and the Middle East, to say nothing of our
     European neighbours such as France, Holland and Spain.
     Whilst not looking to impose our view on others, this at
     least gives us a chance to compare lessons, and share best
     practices.

Partnership and Trust

38.  I mentioned earlier the creation of templates and a library
     of best practice with the emphasis on more openness.  There
     will always be issues of genuine commercial confidentiality
     and intellectual property that must be protected.  We shall
     ensure that is so.  I was shocked by the consultation we
     conducted with industry in Opposition how far mutual
     mistrust had developed between the public and private
     sectors to the detriment of the reputation of both and of
     the effectiveness of the whole PFI programme.

39.  I hope we have made at least a start in restoring relations
     of mutual respect and confidence.  For at the heart of New
     Labour is the desire to establish a new partnership between
     the public and private sectors.  As far as PFI is concerned
     this means the Government as  purchaser and your industries
     as the provider.

40.  We all realise that partnership implies and requires trust.
     It is no good one side trying to screw the other, whether
     it is Government trying to off-load risk to the point where
     it is avoiding the responsibilities that only it can
     properly assume; or whether it is the private sector seeking
     disproportionate returns by exploiting information that only
     it can properly appreciate the significance of.

41.  If we are to seize the great prize that real partnership
     offers - the rebuilding of our schools, the reconstruction
     of our hospitals, the modernisation of our transport system,
     the restoration of our infrastructure - then we can only do
     so by a greater openness and trust between the two great
     pillars of our economy.

42.  Instead of hiding behind the barrier of policy or commercial
     confidentiality we must share information.  Lessons from one
     project are wasted unless they are shared with others, both
     within the public and private sectors. It is about a fair
     deal for the taxpayer and a fair deal for the provider.

Benefits Showing Through

43.  There are certainly signs that we are moving ahead in the
     right direction together.  Lets take the new prisons
     construction programme.  As a result of the experience
     gained and lessons learned form the first tranche of PFI
     deals to deliver prisons, the procurement costs of the
     second tranche are some twenty per cent lower than the
     first.   

44.  This is also a tribute to Tim Wilson, who headed up the
     Contracts and Competition Group of the Prison Service.  I
     am delighted that Tim will be joining the Taskforce as Head
     of the Policy Wing.  I have every confidence he will
     continue the excellent work Peter Wanless has set in motion.

Schools

45.  I would like to say a few more words on the recent PPP
     schools initiative.

46.  As you know we dedicated 1.3 billion Pounds of the Windfall
     Tax money to a four year programme of school refurbishment. 
     It wasn't enough of course.  So we challenged David Blunkett
     and indeed we challenged ourselves to increase it by
     involving private sector capital in the process.

47.  The result was an increase of 35 per cent in last year's
     allocation and nearly 50 per cent in this years.  And this
     has meant that David has been able recently to encourage a
     list of five pilot projects under the New Deal for Schools. 
     These projects will involve around 200 million Pounds of
     investment, and will each address major infrastructure needs
     across a large group of schools.

48.  And let us be quite clear; without PFI, many of these
     projects would not have been possible.  We inherited public
     finances in poor shape - with borrowing still high after 5
     years of recovery. Against this background and the necessity
     for tight control of public spending, PFI is enabling
     Government to support a significant number of additional
     projects beyond what can be provided through public purse.

49.  We all know about the big PFI projects.  But PFI can become
     an agent for change also at a smaller level across a range
     of public services.  PFI is now being used in the Belfast
     Hospital Renal Unit; the Highlands and Islands Airports; IT
     facilities for schools in Dudley; IT for libraries in Kent;
     and as you probably know there is discussion about using PFI
     for the new British Embassy in Berlin.  
50.  So PFI can deliver a wide range of public services - large
     and small - right across the UK, in all areas of public
     service.  This presents many opportunities to you, the PFI
     provider as well as to the public.

The future

51.  But we are under no illusions that whatever progress we have
     made in the last twelve months, there is still plenty of
     work to be done.

52.  Whilst getting PFI right remains an immediate priority, we
     are keen to widen the horizons and develop new kinds
     partnerships.

53.  For example, the Government's election manifesto committed
     us to look for a public private partnership solution to
     tackle investment backlog in London Underground.  The Deputy
     Prime Minister announced his intentions back in March, and
     we are now committed to bringing in private sector to
     develop 7 billion Pounds worth of infrastructure which is
     in addition to the 1 billion Pounds to be invested over next
     2 years from public funds while the private sector
     concessions are put in place. Private sector expertise and
     funds for infrastructure: the public sector retaining
     responsibility for operations and the interface with
     London's travelling community. A natural split of
     responsibilities: an intelligent PPP that will soon be up
     an running.

54.  But there is still a long way to go and it won't be all
     plain sailing if I may mix the metaphors.

Conclusion

55.  Last week, a journalist sat in my office and said he had
     been many times before to be told by my Tory predecessors
     that finally, they had cracked the problem of PFI.  He asked
     me why I thought we had cracked the PFI problem.

56.  I am not sure that as of today I can assure him that we have
     entirely done so.  But I hope when he reads this speech he
     would be obliged to say he has at least an interim
     affirmative answer.  Before too long I hope to address you
     all again with a further account which even the most
     sceptical would have to report as solid evidence of the
     further substantial progress we are making together.