HM Treasury News Release

182/98                                       3 November 1998
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COMMUNITY BANKING: INCREASING ACCESS TO FINANCIAL
SERVICES
                                
Seminar at No 11 to Learn Lessons from the US

A call for banks to exploit the opportunities that exist to
help the unbanked in our poorer communities was made today by
the Economic Secretary, Patricia Hewitt.

The Minister was speaking at a seminar at No 11 Downing Street
where the Government and UK banks and building societies were
listening to representatives from the US who were spelling out
their experiences of community development banking.

The Minister stressed there were lessons to be learned from
the US experience. She said:

     "Community banking can offer a win-win solution - it
     improves services for people in the poorest communities,
     and can prove profitable for the banks. 

     "This Government believes strongly that wider access to
     financial services - through positive action by the
     banking community - is vital.  And we also believe that
     the driving force will be banks and building societies
     searching for new, profitable market opportunities.

     "US banks have found profitable market opportunities in
     areas they might have ignored.

     "I should emphasise that we are not planning to copy the
     US legislation. But we are interested in increasing the
     response of UK banks to the opportunities that exist for
     profitable banking in our poorer communities."

Ms Hewitt praised the work of credit unions in providing
access to financial services for those on lower incomes and
said there would be Government proposals published on how to
encourage the credit union movement. The Minister said:

     "Credit unions have an important role in tackling
     financial exclusion. They provide savings facilities, a
     source of low cost personal credit and financial
     education and advice.

     "Our approach to credit unions is to encourage the
     movement to grow, while retaining and strengthening its
     traditional focus on the poorer members of society.

     "This will be partly through legislative change, lifting
     some of the restrictions on Credit Union operations. We
     have also been thinking about how the movement should be
     regulated in future; and the scope for setting up a share
     protection scheme."

The Government's proposals for credit unions will be published
shortly.

The Minister also set out other initiatives in the area of
financial exclusion which are being undertaken by the
Treasury. They include:

     a taskforce, to explore ways in which banks can work more
     closely with credit unions to increase their
     effectiveness, and it is studying existing good practice
     here and in other countries. The taskforce is chaired by
     Fred Goodwin from the Royal Bank of Scotland; and

     two action teams, set up following the Social Exclusion
     Unit report, Bring Britain Together. One of the teams is
     looking into the prospects for increased access to
     personal financial services for people living in poor
     neighbourhoods, especially retail banking, but also
     credit unions and insurance. The other team will
     concentrate on encouraging enterprise in deprived
     neighbourhoods: looking at access to capital for small
     firms especially those starting up in poor neighbourhoods
     and better access to appropriate advice.

NOTES TO EDITORS

1.   The full text of the Minister's speech is attached.

2.   Other speakers at the event were:

          Ron Grzyinski, Chairman of the Board - Shorebank
          Corporation
          Cliff Rosenthal, Executive Director, National
          Federation of Community Development Credit Unions
          Gary Hattem, Managing Director, Bankers Trust
          Company
          Susan Rice, Head of Branch Banking, Bank of
          Scotland.

3.   If you have access to the Internet, you can find this
     news release and other Treasury information at
          http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk


SPEECH BY PATRICIA HEWITT MP, ECONOMIC SECRETARY TO
THE TREASURY, TO THE DOWNING STREET SEMINAR ON
PROFITABLE COMMUNITY BANKING, 3 NOVEMBER 1998

Introduction

1.   Good morning and welcome to Downing Street.   

2.   We invited you here today to explore community
     development banking, to hear about the US experience, and
     to consider what we can learn from it.  Community banking
     can offer a win-win solution - it improves services for
     people in the poorest communities, and can prove
     profitable for the banks. 

3.   How can we ensure people have basic cash access
     facilities? What is the best way of helping people begin
     to save and get credit? How can we expand Credit Unions?
     How do we bring small scale capital into deprived areas?
     Do we do this through banks? Through credit unions? What
     about micro-credit organisations? These are some of the
     many questions I hope we will explore today.

We are extremely fortunate to have with us:

     Ron Grzywinski of Shorebank;
     Greg Hattem of Bankers Trust;
     Cliff Rosenthal of the National Association of Community
     Development Credit   Unions; and
     Susan Rice, currently with Bank of Scotland, but formerly
     with NatWest's US subsidiary, Bancorp. 

4.   I want to start by why there is a problem with social
     exclusion.  Then I want to move on to talk about the
     steps the Government is already taking to tackle social
     and financial exclusion.  I will conclude by looking at
     how to take the agenda forward.

General policy considerations

5.   My concern is financial exclusion, which is both a
     symptom and a cause of social exclusion.  Combatting
     social exclusion is at the very heart of this
     Government's agenda.

6.   We have watched the gap between rich and poor in this
     country widen over the last twenty years.  

7.   Most people in Britain have benefited from rising living
     standards; and this is reflected in the growth and
     prosperity of the financial services industry.

8.   Of course this is good news, and we will be doing all we
     can to ensure it continues.

9.   But for the poorest people, concentrated in the most
     deprived neighbourhoods, it is a different story. 

10.  They have not shared in the increased wealth and greater
     opportunities so many of us enjoy.

11.  And, crucially, they do not - or cannot - access
     financial services products.

12.  In my own constituency in west Leicester, there are outer
     city estates with too few jobs and too much crime, where
     most children leave school without qualifications - and
     where financial services all too often mean benefit
     cheques and illegal loan sharks.

13.  It is in the poorest communities that we find the highest
     concentrations of people without bank accounts, without
     access to other financial services.

14.  People in these communities can very often by locked into
     the cash economy, cannot get affordable property or
     possessions insurance, can only access credit at
     unbelievably high interest rates, and do not use
     mainstream savings opportunities.  Also, the chances of
     accessing appropriate finance and support for self-
     employment or starting their own businesses may be
     effectively zero.

15.  This Government is not prepared to accept a society where
     economic opportunity is restricted in this fashion.

Government response

16.  For many of those living in our most deprived
     neighbourhoods, the policies of the past bear much of the
     blame.  

17.  But the past is the past.  We must now get on and deal
     with the problems head-on.

18.  We have to bridge the gap between the poorest
     neighbourhoods and the rest of the country - and this is
     a priority issue.  

Tackling financial exclusion 

19.  The Government cannot overcome problems of social
     exclusion on its own, and nowhere is this more evident
     than in the area of financial exclusion.

20.  Our policy is to promote wider access to financial
     services,  where progress has been made, but is in danger
     of becoming stalled.

21.  We set out overall agenda for deprived neighbourhoods, in
     the Social Exclusion Unit report, Bring Britain together,
     which was published in September.

22.  This set out our proposals, to be taken forward by 18
     policy action teams, over the next year. 

23.  Two of these action teams concern financial services. 
     They are to be run by the Treasury and will report to me
     by July next year.  

24.  One of them will look into prospects for increased access
     to personal financial services for people living in poor
     neighbourhoods, especially retail banking, but also
     credit unions and insurance. 

25.  The other will concentrate on encouraging enterprise in
     deprived neighbourhoods.

26.  This means better access to capital for small firms
     especially those starting up in poor neighbourhoods; and
     better access to appropriate advice.

27.  Let me now turn to the main areas of interest to the
     banking industry.

Access to bank accounts

28.  First, access to bank accounts, and those who don't have
     bank accounts.

29.  Whilst access to banking is the norm, at least for those
     in regular full-time employment, there is a conspicuous
     unbanked minority, predominantly poor and not in regular
     full-time work, for whom life without a bank account is
     becoming increasingly inconvenient.  

30.  We are talking here about somewhere between 2 1/2 and 3 1/2 
     million people, concentrated in the most deprived
     neighbourhoods. 

31.  We used to think that the main reason people did not have
     bank accounts was that banks turned them down.

32.  But recent research, sponsored by the British Bankers'
     Association, dealing specifically with people without
     current accounts, reveals a far more complex pattern.

33.  Only a very small number of people had been refused
     accounts, or did not ask for one because they feared
     refusal.

34.  Far commoner were people who thought traditional bank
     facilities were not for them, the so-called self-
     excluded.

35.  But to depict the main problem as self-exclusion is to
     avoid the issue, which is how banks can redesign their
     products, to better suit the circumstances and
     preferences of those currently without access to them. 

36.  I would like to think that such difficulties can be
     overcome.  Some banks are offering new accounts where an
     on-line debit card replaces the cheque book and access to
     credit is withheld until the customer and the bank feel
     comfortable with it.

37.  I know a number of you are already thinking on these
     lines.

Contribution of credit unions

38.  Credit Unions too have an important role in tackling
     financial exclusion.  They provide savings facilities, a
     source of low cost personal credit and financial
     education and advice.  

39.  Our approach to credit unions is to encourage the
     movement to grow, while retaining and strengthening its
     traditional focus on the poorer members of society. This
     will be partly through legislative change, lifting some
     of the restrictions on Credit Union operations.

40.  We have also been thinking about how the movement should
     be regulated in future; and the scope for setting up a
     share protection scheme. Proposals in these areas will be
     published soon.

41.  But even within the existing legislative framework, we
     believe there is considerable scope for expansion.  We
     have established a taskforce to explore ways in which
     banks can work more closely with credit unions to
     increase their effectiveness, and are studying existing
     good practice here and in other countries.

42.   I am delighted to see most of its members here today,
     and we look forward to Cliff Rosenthal's presentation,
     later in the morning, on how the banks have helped the
     credit unions in the United States.

Small firm finance

43.  Just because a neighbourhood may be poor in its physical
     and economic standing does not mean that it cannot be
     rich in people with ideas and initiative to start up and
     run their own businesses.

44.  But to realise their ambitions for business, these
     budding entrepreneurs will often need more capital,
     advice and mentoring than is presently available.  Access
     to capital is a key component of strategies to regenerate
     poor neighbourhoods and encourage greater self-reliance.

45.  At present there is too often a mismatch between
     potential enterprise and the support needed to realise
     it, with the deficit greatest in the poorer areas where
     it is most needed. 

46.  The key to generating sustainable and productive
     enterprise in deprived neighbourhoods is to create the
     right incentives for the private sector to work with
     public agencies.  This could help lever in fresh capital
     where it is needed most.  Without access to capital there
     will be no new enterprises to support.

47.  We need to help pull together the expertise and
     disciplines which commercial finance and business advice
     can bring, along with the local understanding of
     neighbourhoods which local agencies provide. 

48.  The work of the Treasury action team involves examining
     the current roles of large corporations, banks and
     professional service firms in community regeneration, and
     how this complements the voluntary sector and community
     support networks. 

49.  The role that innovative community investment projects
     can play in building and sustaining local economies has
     already been vividly highlighted in some the world's
     poorest regions. The Grameen Bank in Bangladesh, for
     example, offers Microfinance - savings and loans at a
     human level, providing first stage finance to enable
     individuals to make a go of their enterprise. This has
     proved itself viable.

50.  We will look at the availability of debt and equity
     finance, and we will see how that capital can be put to
     best use by making sure enterprises have the right
     technical advice and mentoring when they need it most.

51.  We will also examine critically the role of the various
     Government support schemes, such as the loan guarantee
     scheme, Business Links and Training and Enterprise
     Councils.

52.  So we - and I hope you - are interested in innovative
     approaches to small firm finance, to help overcome the
     disadvantages experienced by those seeking to start up on
     their own in poor areas. 

Conclusion

53.  Like the Clinton Administration in the US, this
     Government believes strongly that wider access to
     financial services - through positive action by the
     banking community - is vital.

54.  And we also believe that the driving force will be banks
     searching for new, profitable market opportunities.

55.  This has been the experience in the United States, as our
     guest speakers today will testify. 

56.  In the US, the banks are obliged to report on their
     provision of credit to all sections of the community; but
     they are not required to do anything that is inconsistent
     with sound banking principles.

57.  The result, so we are told, has been a huge injection of
     finance into low and moderate income neighbourhoods.  And
     US banks have found profitable market opportunities in
     areas they might otherwise have ignored.

58.  I think there is much to be learned from considering the
     implications of that message for what we do in this
     country.  I should emphasise that we are not planning to
     copy the US legislation.  But we are interested in
     increasing the response of UK banks to the opportunities
     that exist for profitable banking in our poorer
     communities.  

59.  That is the objective of this seminar, which I hope you
     will find enjoyable and thought-provoking.  So it is a
     pleasure to hand over to Ron Grzywinski, the Chairman and
     Chief Executive Officer of Shorebank, considered by many
     to be the pioneers of community banking in the United
     States.


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